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"Whether its psychic phenomena,
mystical experiences, communications with the dead...whatever
it is, you're implying that reality is different from the way
they taught you in school. Sooner or later we're going to say
"Well if all of that's so, then our emphases in business
and economics have to be different, as well as our emphases in
politics, education and healthcare."
Willis Harman was Professor Emeritus of Engineering Economic Systems
at Stanford University, USA, and President of the Institute of
Noetic Sciences. He died on 30th January 1997.
How did your own interest in the subject
of consciousness start? Was it an early passion?
Willis Harman No, I was trained as a scientist, thought
I was going to be a chemist for a while, ended up as an electrical
engineer and then systems engineer. And then in 1954 at age 36
I had an up-ending experience that I hadn't asked for and the
net result was my path through life took a sudden swerve. It was
a two-week seminar which, there was nothing like it at the time
although later on there were things like Est and Silva Mind Control
and all kinds of things, but at that time, it was a fairly intensive
seminar and I only came into it because I didn't realise that.
I was tricked into coming into it, thinking it was going to be
a nice, safe intellectual discussion.
What was the seminar, specifically?
Willis Harman It was called The Secora Seminar. The same
group became Beyond War, they still exist, I think. It became
apparent to me through that experience that I had feelings that
I was not even aware of, you know my unconscious mind. Its rather
hard to explain how an experience suddenly opens you up. It's
not exactly a rational, linear process. At any rate I just started
to search around for whoever knew something about any part of
I made one trip to Europe and got aquainted with the Society for
Psychical Research, that was back in the days of Sir George Joy
and Rosalyn Heywood. Celia Green was just a youngster coming in
at that time. So in the next half dozen years or so I got somewhat
involved in psychical research and somewhat involved in the psychedelic
research. That sort of blew up in a way in the 1960's! So I shifted
over to doing research on the future.
Willis Harman I think that this is, indeed a remarkable
point in history. I think the world-view is shifting in a way
that few people recognise and, I think, few scientists understand.
What are the new ideas coming in?
Willis Harman If there really is something new coming in
and it's bubbling up out of the collective unconscious, then nobody's
going to be able to tell you exactly what it is. But I think we
can see some signs of it. In a different picture of reality that
involves consciousness or mind or spirit in a very different way,
not something that ended up as the final product of billions of
years of evolution, but rather as something that was here before
evolution. For example one Nobel scientist, George Wall, started
to write that six or eight years ago that the fundamental picture
of evolution, he was convinced, was not one where consciousness
comes along at the tail end of the evolution of mammals, resulting
in human beings. Instead of that, consciousness was there all
the time, or something like consciousness or mind or spirit. That's
a very different story and it has profound implications for the
economic system, for business, for any aspect of society.
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Originally broadcast on UK television's
Channel 4, dprogram is an award winning, mind expanding
trip featuring rare and exclusive interviews with leading edge
personalities from areas like cyber culture, consciousness research,
parapsychology, music and art.
Volume 1 includes:
Mapes CEO of San Francisco's leading edge virtual
reality design company SynergyLabs on the metaphysics of VR.
Wobble Musician and founder member of Public Image
Limited on Cockney mystics, creativity and the inspiration of
Sara Parker UC Berkeley scholar on the New Age
'colonisation' of Native American spirituality.
Joey Head of the First Church of the Last Laugh
- the worlds fastest growing snack relgion!
Man A unique four day experience exploring creativity
and consciousness in Nevada's Black Rock Desert.
Willis Harman Former president of The Institute
of Noetic Sciences on their 'conventional research into unconventional
Edgar Mitchell Founder of The Institute of Noetic
Sciences and Apollo 14 astronaut on parapsychology experiments
Pope of the British Ministry of Defence on why
he had to change his mind about the UFO phenomenom.
Russell Author, on the global brain, spirituality
on the net and our part in the evolution of the planet.
& Alexander Shulgin Pioneer researchers into
psychedelics and the mind, on the politics of ecstacy.
Running time: 70 mins.
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