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Psychedelics
You mentioned being involved with the early
research into psychedelics, what is your own attitude to them?
Willis Harman Well this is a controversial area, obviously,
and having had the direct experience of bringing up three daughters
in Southern California in the 60's, we had a close up view of
a lot of this. I would have to say that it seemed to me that people's
experiences with psychedelic drugs were on the whole very positive,
very profound, very much in the new spirituality direction, very
much in the changing world view direction, very compatible with
mystical traditions and that this was very threatening to the
scientific and medical communities. They did all sorts of things
to twist that story around so that it came out negative. There's
no question that after they started to do that, some people had
negative trips! But the role of the psychedelic sacraments, which
is what they have been in every other society but ours, seemed
to me to be a very significant factor in the 60's, in bringing
about this changing belief system.
It has been suggested that the military's
early experimentation with psychedelics ironically ended up contributing
to it's wider use in the population. Do you think that's true?
Willis Harman It may be part of the surface history, that
the military were leaders in this, but that's not accurate at
all. The groups that I found doing research on this in Canada,
England, and to a lesser extent in the United States, was busy
during the mid-50's and the term 'psychedelic' (mind-manifesting)
was coined by Sir Humphrey Osmond in 1957. There was a network
of people, long before 1960 that was recommending this kind of
experience to leaders in all fields, particularly in government,
and this was all being done very quietly.
Then when the Harvard researchers, in around 1961, made this public
and recommended that this other pathway was too slow and that
we should give it to teenagers around the world, and really change
things more rapidly, that just caused everything to blow up. Then
the military did indeed get involved, with their particular kind
of enquiry about it and I'd say the whole thing went pretty negative
by the mid-60's. But there was a decade there of very positive
work, with results that would still be worth paying attention
to, some published in scientific journals.
Apocalypse Soon?
When you were studying the future, back
in the 1960's, was it generally cheering or depressing to you?
Willis Harman I never got depressed about it, although
we began to unearth all these global problems like pollution and
so on which, (this was around 1969 or so) nobody was talking about
those things, nobody wanted to and we could begin to see them
coming, along with the cultural change that looked very positive.
But I did have one staff member, probably the most experienced
staff member I had, this was in the Stanford Research Institute
and this man said "I have to resign" and he did, he
said "I just can't stand to come in day after day and look
at the future."
But you didn't, yourself, feel that much
alarmed?
Willis Harman Oh, quite the contrary because you could
see the global dilemmas that were coming, really had no solution
within the paradigm out of which they came. You could see that
the attempt was going to be made to patch them up and that this
really wouldn't work. But at the same time, you'd see all these
indications of wonderful changes coming along that started more
or less in the 60's. To be sure it had its very bizarre side,
too and in Southern California we definitely saw that side! It
was a whole population waking up, not just in the United States
but in Europe and Australia.
One of the questions we haven't really asked until recently is
whether modern society is really sustainable in the long-term.
Not just because of what it's doing to the environment and man-made
climate change but in all sorts of other ways. The rich-poor gap
expanding, the increasing hunger and poverty and so on. To whatever
extent modern culture grows out of its world-view, just as other
cultures have come out of their world views, the question becomes
"Is the modern, scientific, Western world view really sustainable
on the planet? Or does something have to shift within that?"
I think the conclusion that we're coming to, and a lot of people
on the mind network around the globe are coming to, is that in
the long-term that must change. There's probably, in that group
at any rate, quite a lot of optimism, about long-term change actually
happening. It also observes, though, that there's a certain amount
of short-term prejudice about the catastrophic sort of transition
period that we might have to go through if we are not capable
of dealing with these questions in a fear-reducing kind of dialogue.
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